20 10 / 2014
- 1: Women in America are so oppressed, we need feminism.
- 2: Oh? You mean you are forced to cover your whole body and face in public?
- 1: No, we can wear whatever we want.
- 2: Oh.. So you mean you are not allowed to drive or own a car?
- 1: No, I can own one if I want.
- 2: You mean you're not allowed to get a job?
- 1: No, I have a job.
- 2: You mean it's legal for a man to beat his wife?
- 1: No, he would go to jail.
- 2: You mean you're not allowed to go to school and get an education?
- 1: No, I graduated college.
- 2: You mean you're not allowed to vote?
- 1: No, I voted for Obama.
- 2: You mean that if you show too much skin, people will throw acid on you?
- 1: No, I always wear skirts and shorts and t-shirts,
- 2: You mean that women get stoned to death for being raped?
- 1: No, women get help centers and rape hotlines and all kinds of support.
- 2: You mean women are not allowed to run for or hold office?
- 1: No, there are women in office now.
- 2: Then HOW are you oppressed?
- 1: There is a song about sex that has women dancing in slutty cloths.
- 2: Are you fucking serious? *facepalm*
19 10 / 2014
cacklewhore said: But what the fuck is a radical feminist...? If woman uses a little power to get her opinions heard (which have been completely disregarded by stupid sexist men like you) they suddenly become radical and irrational?? Wow. I'm ashamed to live in a world with such ignorant ass people.
The feeling is mutual I assure you. If you think all feminism is doing is voicing opinions you haven’t been paying the fuck attention.
This is very important
Feminism does not mean the right for women to be an absolute monster and get away with it just because they’re women, feminism does not mean acting like all women are faultless, perfect angels capable of doing no wrong even when they do things like murder, rape, abuse and blackmail, all the while acting like all men are a merge between the Joker and Gaston and that every and any male is your inherent enemy.
That’s not feminism, that is called being depraved and sociopathic.
I would say that those people aren’t feminists
I would say this makes you the no true scotsman fallacy perpetrator number 1000 for this post alone.
Not really. If someone says they are a peace advocate while they start a war are they a peace advocate or someone who says they are one? If someone says they are a feminist while breaking the core principle of feminism then are they a feminist or someone who says they are one?
If peace advocacy was a social movement or an organization then yes they would be. But its not, its a term that defines somebody by the actions they commit. A social movement however is defined by the actions of its members. Without the members, the movement doesn’t exist. A term however remains constant.
The word Feminism may mean gender equality, that doesn’t mean the organization is anymore about that than the Dallas Cowboys are about herding cattle. No true scotsman. If you wanna pull this crap than you also have to concede that all political and social organizations are valid. Can’t let a few bad racist ruin the name for the KKK. They’re just a good Christian organization.
And aside from that, just because feminists think they’re fighting for gender equality doesn’t mean they are. The fucking cracked out hobo that wonders around the neighborhood may think he’s saving my house from a dragon, but all he’s really doing is hitting the mailbox with a bat. The Westboro Church honestly thinks they’re saving the world. But I don’t give a fuck what they or feminists think they’re accomplishing, I care about the results. And the results of the feminist movement are right up there.
19 10 / 2014
"Hey, just so you know you’re mostly referring to radfems here, not feminism."
But of course. Most people I’ve known in my life would either identify as ‘feminist’ or at least consider feminism to be a positive force in the world - the dictionary definition, after all, tells us it is only about equality. And these are good people, they wouldn’t often openly express hateful views on men & boys.
The trouble is, the leaders & spokespeople of the feminist movement are all radical feminists: radical feminism is not 'fringe' feminism, it’s core feminism.
The ‘why can’t we just get along’ type feminists didn’t write the central texts of that ideology back in the 1970s, they don’t organize slutwalks, teach gender studies classes, maintain websites, print up flyers, draw up the petitions everyone else signs to lobby government. It’s radical feminists who do that.
That unhinged, slavering pathology gets more & more diluted the more it reaches the mainstream - the smiling celebrities wearing ‘this is what a feminist looks like ’ T-shirts; the ‘you go girl’ positive role models in every TV show; otherwise sane & intelligent people saying things like “you like women don’t you? Well then, you’re a feminist!” & actually believing that makes any kind of rational sense whatsoever.
What this means is the great majority of feminists are simply foot soldiers to a cause which has a markedly different agenda to its publicly stated goals, the goals that made them sign up in the first place. It is only by pointing this out repeatedly that the overwhelming mass of good people, the people who genuinely want love, compassion & equality for all, may wake up to the hateful & destructive acts of the movement they are tacitly lending their support to.
18 10 / 2014
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